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Originally Posted by BLAZEInfinity  So why should Ra or KRS waste time to get those dumb ass to understand that this is the REAL SHIT, instead of the artist they discovered and mentoring?
Bottom line: It's the INDUSTRY fault. Not the artist. Not Rakim's, KRS, or Kool G's fault for the artist today making microwave music, it's the INDUSTRY. Because THEY feel that's what the audience today want. The R knows that, KRS knows that, and every other lyrical legend knows that. That's why they remain to spit what they know to crowds and people who know.
So once again...Niggas today want that money fast and how else to get it?
By putting no effort in their music...bottom line.. Lazy. They like their music microwaved..like right now without putting any thought to it.
Microwave music comes in: gimmicks, corny ass dances, rhymes about something that doesn't require you to think too hard.
That's why dope niggas like Crooked I, Saigon, and Lupe don't go platinum as quick..it's not in their lyrical DNA to make microwave music.
So to answer your question:
NEITHER. Because the wack forces of nature are working against those two options due to what I've said in my post. |
You KNOW the answer is #2. everyone reading this shit knows that the answer.
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Originally Posted by BLAZEInfinity And I watch the WSHH clip..
I saw that: Dude is right. BUT...
What are the artists of today are?
Wreckless mouth runners. Immature. Ignorant.
Which goes back to what I mentioned.
LISTEN TO THE CLASSICS and RECOGNIZE and UNDERSTAND why you don't disrespect the legends and what made them LEGENDS.
in other words..
DO YOUR OWN FUCKING RESEARCH. |
Let me ask YOU and whomever else is reading A PERSONAL question. If you have your children running around wreckless, misbehaving, talkin back and shit who do you blame? The kids who have NO IDEA what they're doing is stupid.
or
the parents who were SUPPOSE to school em on what's right wrong.
actually don't bother respond to that cuz I already know YOU know its the parents........NOW
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You thing those big wigs at the label actually listened to a Rakim album, a KRS album to understand why we loved their music and follow the blueprint for today? HELL NO.
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NIGGA THAT'S MY POINT RIGHT THERE. They didn't listen to those albums so how the fuck are they going to know what to push. That's why I'm saying KRS needs to find his way into that chair and put up his feet and say, "no more of this wack shit. Go independant with that crap!"
where's maino? Maino STILL around. Maino will NEVER blow you away with lyrics like Canibus, Maino is HIMSELF.
you mean to tell me you'll front on this?:confused:
YouTube - Maino- Letter To Pac {With Lyrics In Description}
maino album ain't droppin because he aint hustlin right. EXACT SAME thing with Papoose. Pap dropped like 4 million mixtapes before an album. NOBODY was anticipating his shit if one of YOUR old heads stepped in I STRONGLY agree that shit would be totally different.
we know the industry doesn't want concept, story telling and all that but Blaze you frontin like we (the cats that bump and LIVE this shit hip hop) are powerless to shift what the industry listens to. The problem is that the same dudes that were fiending for Rakim and Wu Tang, etc have shifted their attention to STRICTLY underground and pretty much said, "yo fuck mainstream, leave that to the kids"
Blaze, I guarantee you and I both grew up the SAME way.
When we were young, running our mouths, talking back, misbehaving and shit LOL
did our mothers ignore that?
LET THAT SHIT SLIDE?!
NO
your ass got POPPED in the mouth for EVER thinking we could disrespect our parents.
So blaze PLEASE tell me, why do Kool G, Kane, and KRS allow new cats, ex. maino, speak on them like that?
disrespect?!
na. If they schooled the new bucks like they were schooled shit would be totally different.
the main thing is KRS is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more effective behind a desk at a big label than in a studio.
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Originally Posted by Stanky Fresh Before I begin my post I'd like to commend the both of you for your posts in this thread...this has probably been the most enjoyable read since I've joined so props to you both....
I'll let Clark Kent take this one....
This man LOVES Hip-Hop..Older cats complain cause they were there for what it was..They know what it could be...and these days it ain't that..most young cats don't know their history and don't care to go back cause they don't LOVE the shit...
I'd say #1 is better... I was that dude listening to bullshit and my older brothers said "you listen to bullshit...peep this" so I did...and I gained LOVE for it...On my own...I wanted to go back and see where it all started and who made this thing I fell in LOVE with....
Not saying #2 wouldn't work but.... from my experiences I like to find shit out on my own...My passion for this developed on my own...that's why It excited me cause I discovered what was dope and I felt the passion...
Do the young motherfuckers coming out these days and the young motherfuckers who support them have LOVE? Iunno...doesn't seem like it if they wouldn't wanna go back and discover the classics...Definitely not the cats putting out the shit I would consider corny...They don't seem to be in for the LOVE at all...at the least the old motherfuckers who should be behind a desk have LOVE for the thing I LOVE... but I am a self admitting older dude...I mainly listen to shit I grew up on....Thank God I was old enough to really get into this shit from 93 on....cause I can't even stomach the shit that comes out these days.... |
yea me and Blaze could do this all day no lie lol.
Let me re-recycle my previous analogy. on why #2 is better than #1
When you were a baby did you parents throw a book at you as an infant say, "here lil nigga this is a book. Look at the words and learn to read"
no. My grandmother showed me which books to read in terms of looking up black history and then she left it up to me to seek the knowledge myself as Blaze is leading to. Honestly, and truly, how do you expect cats like Yung Berg to LISTEN and STUDY Follow the Leader or even The Adventures of????????
what are you suppose to study? Lyrics? those lyrics were hot in THAT era. Niggas roll their eyes to shit like, "she saw my necklace, started relaxin, now thats what the fuck I call a chain reaction" Jay FIRST said it. Now NUMEROUS people keep on using it (Fabolous and Remy Ma to name a few) the shit is OLD.
what are you suppose to study? flow? then you're considered a biter and nobody wants to listen to you.
the ONLY thing the new cats take today from the old heads is the production. Royce will take production from Premo but you wont catch him trying to spit and mimic Big Daddy Kane. Kane has HIS style and that worked for HIM in that ERA. Royce has HIS style and he needs to find HIS style in THIS era. Since the nigga is lost, Kane why don't point the nigga in the right direction?
are the new cats missing the love? LOL yes. But again I ask, when you talk back to your parents, the people that birthed you, do they NOT smack you and say, "stfu and respect the motherfuckers that birthed you youngin'"
don't worry. I'll wait.
seriously, yall SERIOUSLY think EVERY young buck today has
NO RAW TALENT
NO RESPECT
NO LOVE
wtf is this then?
http://2dopeboyz.com/2008/07/18/skillz-rap-city-freestyle/
how do YOU KRS, Clark Kent, Premo, and company
LET THAT SHIT STAY UNDER WRAPS?????
that's beyond me.